What did Jesus really look like? In today’s episode of The Greg Laurie Show, Pastor Greg sits down for the first of two conversations with renowned scholar Dr. Jeremiah Johnston to explore one of the most controversial and fascinating relics in Christian history: the Shroud of Turin. Could this ancient linen cloth really be the burial cloth of Christ—and offer visual, physical proof of both his crucifixion and resurrection?

Together, Greg and Jeremiah unpack the artifact’s historical, scientific, and spiritual implications—using cutting-edge research, personal anecdotes, and relatable faith conversations from family life to Oxford University and beyond. Whether you’re a lifelong believer, honest skeptic, or just curious about the mysteries of faith, this conversation invites you to consider both the evidence and the enduring hope at the heart of the Gospel: “Because He lives, you shall live also.”

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To view the artifacts mentioned in this conversation, check out the links below:
Shroud of Turin: https://www.shroud.com/
Pilate Stone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilate_stone
Pantocrator Icon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_Pantocrator
Israel Antiquities Museum: https://www.imj.org.il/en

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 600,000 Hours Studying Jesus’ Resurrection: No Hoax
01:22 Jeremiah’s Academic Journey from Oxford to Resurrection Research
04:13 Holding an Actual Roman Crucifixion Nail
06:38 Why the Resurrection Is Central to Christian Faith
09:17 Is the Shroud of Turin Authentic? Jeremiah’s Turning Point
11:11 The Shroud as a “Receipt” of Christ’s Sacrifice
12:10 Only One Burial Cloth: Unique Image of the Crucified Man
13:52 Shroud as a Visual Tool to Pass Faith to Kids
14:43 Gen Z’s Renewed Hunger for Jesus
19:26 1 in 200 Billion Chance: Shroud Isn’t Jesus
20:03 Type AB Blood and Scientific Evidence on the Shroud
23:38 Inside the Tomb: Science Behind the Resurrection Flash
25:45 The Shroud’s Image Created by Impossible Energy
27:34 AI and History: Reconstructing the Face of Jesus
31:04 200 Scourge Marks: The Brutal Reality of Crucifixion
35:22 Soil and Blood Evidence: Jesus Fell Face Down
36:42 The Shroud as “The Fifth Gospel”
37:22 Skeptics Becoming Believers Through Shroud Evidence
38:17 Using the Shroud as a Powerful Evangelism Tool
40:48 “Get Saved” — A Barber’s Story and the Power of Evangelism
43:11 Even Religious People Can Miss Jesus: Lazarus’ Resurrection
46:04 Replacing “If Onlys” with “If Jesus” in Faith
47:42 Hope in Grief: Resurrection and Seeing Loved Ones Again
49:31 How to Believe and Receive Jesus—The Gospel Invitation
52:22 Leading Triplets to Christ at the Dinner Table
53:01 Listener Prayer for Salvation

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