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2 Thessalonians 2:9-14 - Part 2 
II Thessalonians 2:13a 
"But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you,..." 
Remember the Thessalonian letters were the first of Paul’s writings. With the simply preaching of the Gospel, God miraculously brought these people out of abject paganism and idolatrous darkness. And they were believers of Paul’s Gospel. 
II Thessalonians 2:13 
"But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth." Go all the way back to Romans Chapter 2 verse 16. Romans 2:16 
"In the day when God shall (now I am sure this is a reference to the Great White Throne of Revelation 20) judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ (who will be the judge at he Great White Throne, remember. And so, Jesus Christ will judge the secrets of men according to what benchmark?) according to my gospel" 
Now turn to Romans 16 verse 25. Because all this points up what I am constantly trying to get across, that you will not find the Gospel of the Grace of God in the four gospels. Alright, so now here in Romans 16 verse 25 Paul makes almost the same kind of a statement. 
Romans 16:25 
"Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, (my Gospel, Do you see that? And what’s Paul’s Gospel? The preaching of Jesus Christ!) So Paul says "that his Gospel which is the preaching of Jesus Christ according to a revealing of something that had been kept secret since the ages began." That’s why I said in the last lesson, when John wrote in his gospel that the law came by Moses but grace and truth by Jesus Christ. Yes, Jesus finished what had to be done but it was not proclaimed as a salvation gospel until it became the Gospel of the grace of God committed unto the Apostle Paul. Acts Chapter 20 verse 24. 
Acts 20:24 
the grace of God." 
This again has never been revealed until it came to the Apostle Paul. The Gospel of the Grace of God is that, because of God’s love for mankind, what did God do? It was committed unto the Apostle Paul. So, until Paul began to proclaim this Gospel, it was a secret, as he says in Romans 16, "hid in the mind of God until it was revealed to this apostle." 
Galatians Chapter 1. Starting in verse 11. Early on in the chapter he is admonishing us not to fall for an adulterated gospel.That anybody who falls for something that is not Paul’s Gospel is already condemned. They are accursed because God will not stand for his pure Gospel of Grace to be adulterated with legalism. Galatians 1:11-12 
"But I certify you, brethren, (I guarantee it) that the gospel which was preached of me (his gospel) is not after man. Galatians 1:15 
"But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb, and called me by his grace," 
"by his grace." Well not by the Grace of God calling them in to it. Saved his arch enemy, who hated the very name Jesus of Nazareth. For what purpose? 
Galatians 1:16a 
The Son of God, who had died. Galatians 1:16b 
"...that I might preach him (the resurrected Christ) among (what people?) Gentiles! Well now Paul, of course, is ready to begin to proclaim his Gospel to the Gentile world. People are calling about what they heard on Sunday morning. Now Ephesians Chapter 2. Ephesians 2:8 
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; (plus what? Nothing! You are saved by Grace through faith. it is the gift of God:" 
Do you work for a gift? No! If you work five minutes for something somebody gave you, then it wouldn’t be a gift because you have already worked for part of it. God doesn’t save us just to escape hell fire. Salvation is more than a fire escape. Next verse, verse 10. 
Ephesians 1:9-10a 
"Not of works, lest any man should boast. The Greek word ispoema, if I’m not mistaken. God has not only saved us, he has- 
Ephesians 2:10b 
"...created (us) in Christ Jesus (now, our position as a believer. unto good works,..." 
Absolutely good works has a place. But not for salvation. Ephesians 2:10c 
"...which God hath before ordained..." 
I’ve never met a believer yet that didn’t have an intrinsic ability that God can use. Every believer has something that God has placed within us. Ephesians 2:10d 
We appropriated that by faith. Come back to I Corinthians Chapter 3 starting at verse 9. Look what Paul writes. "For we are labourers together with God:..." 
See? God himself. We are co-laborers together with God. "...ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building. Now verse 12. 
I Corinthians 3:12 
"Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood hay stubble;" God has given us these materials to put into our, as I like to put it, section of the wall. Which is Jesus Christ. There is a reward system for the believer. 
 
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"But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you,..."
Remember the Thessalonian letters were the first of Paul’s writings. With the simply preaching of the Gospel, God miraculously brought these people out of abject paganism and idolatrous darkness. And they were believers of Paul’s Gospel.
II Thessalonians 2:13
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This passage of scripture contains some difficult topics and imagery, but it should also bring us an incredible amount of comfort. The Thessalonian church is concerned again about having possibly missed the return of Jesus. Paul reminds them of what he has already taught them about the man of lawlessness and the struggles that will precede Jesus’ return. He then says that the Man of Lawlessness, the most formidable adversary the church will ever face, will be brought to nothing by Jesus, simply with the breath of His mouth. It's hard to imagine a more comforting thought than knowing that Christ, who has that much power over the darkness of the world, stepped down from heaven and chose to have an individual relationship with each of us. 
 
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This passage of scripture contains some difficult topics and imagery, but it should also bring us an incredible amount of comfort. The Thessalonian church is concerned again about having possibly missed the return of Jesus. Paul reminds them of what he has already taught them about the man of lawlessness and the struggles that will precede Jesus’ return. He then says that the Man of Lawlessness, the most formidable adversary the church will ever face, will be brought to nothing by Jesus, simply with the breath of His mouth. It's hard to imagine a more comforting thought than knowing that Christ, who has that much power over the darkness of the world, stepped down from heaven and chose to have an individual relationship with each of us.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-17

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Setting the Record Straight (2 Thessalonians 2:1-12) Living LIfe 082924 Daily Devotional Bible Study

We are dedicated to confirming salvation is through "putting into practice" the words of Jesus, just as Jesus teaches in his lesson about building on the rock as opposed to on sand.  Paul's message is obviously different. The church knows this, and so a doctrine was developed called Dispensationalism. You maybe never have heard of it. But it teaches that Jesus, the man, was inferior to the resurrected Jesus who alone spoke from heaven to Paul. Jesus' teachings are supposedly flawed, and still affected by weakness, as Luther taught in his Preface to the NT from 1522 until he removed that statement in 1545. Luther had written -- which echoed over the centuries since: "There is no man living on Earth Who knows how to distinguish between The law and the gospel … even the man Jesus Christ  was so wanting in Understanding when he was in the vineyard that an angel had to console him though he was a doctor from heaven he was strengthened by the angel.” Luther, Luther Works 54, 127.

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This video proves Micaiah is a lying prophet himself, falsely claiming God said He ordered a lying spirit who appeared in God's courts offering to lie to Ahab, to induce him to leave the protection of his fort, and thus be able to be struck presumably by arrows etc from Israel's armed forces. 
 
The grounds are (a) Micaiah is not a verified prophet -- this passage being all we know of him; (b) words of prophets are tested, and invalidated by the superior validity of the Torah -- so says God in Numbers 12 vv. 1-14 where God explains He speaks clearly, not in visions or riddles, to Moses but to all other prophets God speaks only in visions, and in riddles -- and hence in an inferior manner. (This is why scholars put Torah in its own section at the front.); (c) Micaiah contradicts God's word that God cannot lie, in Number 23:19; and (d) Micaiah claims to a face-to-face with God in his court chamber with others coming participating when God says He only speaks this way with Moses, and all others are by visions and riddles (except the special case of The Prophet of Deut 18:16-19) -- see Numbers 12:1-14. 
 
 
The most material fact is the obvious: Micaiah would have us believe that in order to kill Ahab, God has to entice Ahab by lies from an evil spirit acting on God's orders when God can snuff out Ahab with a single command. 
 
Hence Micaiah has absurdly claimed not only a contradiction of [a] Numbers 12:1-14 (no face-to-face with all other prophets than Moses), besides [b] Numbers 23:19 (God does not lie) but also [c] the nonsense that God has to lie to kill Ahab. 
 
God is under no pressure to use lies of evil spirits to seduce Ahab to leave his stronghold so God can arrange for Israel's king to kill Ahab out in the open. It is an extraordinarily obvious lie but one that enemies of YHWH cite to convey the idea that Micaiah was a true prophet who depicts YHWH as evil, cunning and a liar. 
 
The Torah is there to screen out and TEST prophets, as God explains in Deut 13:1-10 (the law of apostasy). You are to kill a prophet who quotes God saying something that contradicts the Law. Micaiah was a false prophet worthy of death. The king of Israel failed to recognize this, and trust in lies to defeat Ahab rather than trust the One True God who does not lie and does not speak directly face-to-face to anyone except Moses and The Prophet to come in Deut 18:16-19.

This video proves Micaiah is a lying prophet himself, falsely claiming God said He ordered a lying spirit who appeared in God's courts offering to lie to Ahab, to induce him to leave the protection of his fort, and thus be able to be struck presumably by arrows etc from Israel's armed forces.

The grounds are (a) Micaiah is not a verified prophet -- this passage being all we know of him; (b) words of prophets are tested, and invalidated by the superior validity of the Torah -- so says God in Numbers 12 vv. 1-14 where God explains He speaks clearly, not in visions or riddles, to Moses but to all other prophets God speaks only in visions, and in riddles -- and hence in an inferior manner.  (This is why scholars put Torah in its own section at the front.); (c) Micaiah contradicts God's word that  God cannot lie, in Number 23:19;  and (d) Micaiah claims to a face-to-face with God in his court chamber with others coming participating when God says He only speaks this way with Moses, and all

Did God Send a lying prophet in 1 Kings 22? Does this Absolve Paul of Blasphemy in 2 Thess. 2:8-12?

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Both episodes discussed what appears in our article Blasphemies of Paul, topic #4 at this URL: 
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The topic name in the article is: #4 What About Paul's Claim God Will Bring A Delusion For Men To Believe A Lie? 
 
In Episode # 1 we discussed: 
 
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie,12 that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thess. 2:10-13 KJV-21st) 
 
In this Episode #2 we discuss this passage: 
 
8 And then shall that wicked one be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming —9 even him, whose coming is according to the working of Satan, with all power and signs and lying wonders (2 Thess 2:8-9 21st Cent KJV) 10 and with all deceivableness and delusion." [Author's version of v. 10.]

Episode 1 in this series on Paul's blasphemies, see this URL;
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Both episodes discussed what appears in our article Blasphemies of Paul, topic #4 at this URL:
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The topic name in the article is: #4 What About Paul's Claim God Will Bring A Delusion For Men To Believe A Lie?

In Episode # 1 we discussed:

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie,12 that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thess. 2:10-13 KJV-21st)

In this Episode #2 we discuss this passage:

8 And then shall that wicked one be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming —9 even him, whose coming is according to the working of Satan, with all power and signs and lying wonders (2 Thess 2:8-9 21st Cent KJV) 10 and with all deceivableness and delusion

#2 Paul's 2d  Blasphemy in Prior 3 Verses -- in 2 Thess  2:8-11 linked to blasphemy in 2:10-13.

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This is our response to a channel supporter who says she does not agree we should think Paul in 2 Thess. 2:8-12 actually said Jesus will be coming with Lying signs and wonders, and God will bring delusions to cause those who did not love the truth to be damned.

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Digging Deeper on Whether 2 Thess  2:8-12 Had Blasphemy from Even How Early Church Read it

The article at this URL https://2001translation.org/notes/today-in-paradise reminds us of the key knowledge that in reading English NT we must mentally remove all punctuation. 
 
For in the Greek NT, there is no punctuaation. That is added. Often it is an interpretation that can change meaning. 
 
This article on Lk 23:43 perfect makes the point. 
 
We read: 
 
"One of the criminals that was hung next to Jesus asked Jesus to remember him when he got into his Kingdom. Then Jesus replied (literally, from a Greek source text): 
 
‘Amen, soi ego semeron met emou ese en to paradeiso’ 
Amen, to/you I/say today with me you will be in the paradise 
 
Now, was Jesus saying (as most Bibles put it), ‘I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise’, or was he saying (as many believe), ‘‘I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise’? 
 
Do you see the difference? If we move the comma, what Jesus was saying changes. In the first way, Jesus is saying that the man will be in paradise later today. In the second way, Jesus is just telling him about it today, but the paradise could be some future time. 
 
The same ambiguity is present in the Ancient Greek." 
 
END OF ARTICLE 
 
We exposed previously the same influence of punctuation on missing the point of the passage in 2 Thess. 2:8-11. It reads without added punctuation: 
 
8 And then shall that wicked one be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming 9 whose coming is according to the working of Satan, with all power and signs and lying wonders 10 and with all deceit [apate, BH] of wickedness 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: (KJV-21st Centur

The article at this URL https://2001translation.org/notes/today-in-paradise reminds us of the key knowledge that in reading English NT we must mentally remove all punctuation.

For in the Greek NT, there is no punctuaation. That is added. Often it is an interpretation that can change meaning.

This article on Lk 23:43 perfect makes the point.

We read:

"One of the criminals that was hung next to Jesus asked Jesus to remember him when he got into his Kingdom. Then Jesus replied (literally, from a Greek source text):

‘Amen, soi ego semeron met emou ese en to paradeiso’
Amen, to/you I/say today with me you will be in the paradise

Now, was Jesus saying (as most Bibles put it), ‘I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise’, or was he saying (as many believe), ‘‘I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise’?

Do you see the difference? If we move the comma, what Jesus was saying changes. In the first way, Jesus is saying that the man will be in paradise later today. In the seco

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Many picture good and evil, God and Satan, like the Chinese religious symbol of yin and yang, equals, locked in a cosmic battle for control. Nothing could be more untrue. Satan, like all of creation, is under the authority and control of the Creator, subject to Him in every way. 
 God has an eternal plan for His creation, including Satan, and He’s bringing that plan to His determined end. When things seem out of control, they are still advancing according to God’s eternal will and timing. 
 
I. The Restrainer (2 Thess 2:5-6). The Day of the Lord with it’s falling away and man of sin (2 Thess 2:3) was being kept to a divine and eternal schedule. Something and someone was restraining it. The word restraining (katecho) means to actively and deliberately hold down, hold fast, keep in control. The Thessalonians knew the identity of this restrainer from Paul’s teaching when he was with them. 
 The restraining power was at work in Paul’s day and greater than sin. It would be removed one day. Because he’d taught this in person, Paul didn’t include the restrainer’s identity. The church only had to remember (2 Thess 2:5) Paul’s teaching while he was with them. 
 Many suggestions have been offered as to the identity of the restrainer: Israel, the Roman Empire, the Apostle James, Paul, an angel, government, Satan, the antichrist, and the preaching of the gospel. We are convinced by Scripture, that the restrainer is the Holy Spirit. 
 
II. The Mystery of Lawlessness (2 Thess 2:7). The word mystery in the Bible (musterion) describes a once hidden truth now fully revealed (Mk 4:11; Rom 16:25; Col 1:26; 1 Tim 3:9; 3:16). That revealing isn’t by man’s searching but by God’s revelation. There have been mysteries about sin withheld by God until the New Testament, but the power and scope of sin will be fully revealed in the man of lawlessness. He will be the physical embodiment of sin. 
 This lawless one’s advent is yet future, but lawlessness was already at work supernaturally in Paul’s day (1 Jn 2:18-22). Satan’s power through sin entered the world in the Garden of Eden and mankind in Adam (Rom 5:12-19) and restrained by the Spirit of God. When the restrainer is removed, the lawless one will be revealed, the apostasy begin, and the Day of the Lord start (2 Thess 2:3). The rebellion can’t begin until the revel is revealed. 
 
III. The Brightness of His Coming (2 Thess 2:7). Just before his death, Paul wrote to Timothy that evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived because sin feeds upon itself (2 Tim 3:13-17). Only the coming of Jesus will put an end to the son of perdition’s reign. Even with sin’s power at work in and through him, God remains supreme and sovereign. 
 Again, Paul doesn’t create a calendar of events, but writes to comfort the church of God that He’s in control of all things to the very end of all things. 
 The universe was created from nothing by the simple, yet powerful voice of God through Jesus (Gen 1:1-3; Jn 1:3). Jesus will also be the one to will consume (to put to an end) and destroy (to make useless) the man of sin at the brightness of His coming with the breath of His mouth (Is 11:4; Rev 19:11-21). Jesus’ first appearing was with brightness; His second coming will be no less spectacular. 
 Jesus will not have to do anything but appear in person to put an end to the man of sin and his reign of wickedness on the earth. He is in control!

Many picture good and evil, God and Satan, like the Chinese religious symbol of yin and yang, equals, locked in a cosmic battle for control. Nothing could be more untrue. Satan, like all of creation, is under the authority and control of the Creator, subject to Him in every way. 
     God has an eternal plan for His creation, including Satan, and He’s bringing that plan to His determined end. When things seem out of control, they are still advancing according to God’s eternal will and timing.
  
I.    The Restrainer (2 Thess 2:5-6). The Day of the Lord with it’s falling away and man of sin (2 Thess 2:3) was being kept to a divine and eternal schedule. Something and someone was restraining it. The word restraining (katecho) means to actively and deliberately hold down, hold fast, keep in control. The Thessalonians knew the identity of this restrainer from Paul’s teaching when he was with them. 
     The restraining power was at work in Paul’s day and greater than sin. It would be remove

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